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		<title>Comment on VOICING OUR VISION, PUBLIC INPUT AND OTHER MYTHS (Part I) by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/voicing-our-vision-public-input-and-other-myths-part-i/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on VOICING OUR VISION, PUBLIC INPUT AND OTHER MYTHS (Part I) by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on VOICING OUR VISION, PUBLIC INPUT AND OTHER MYTHS (Part I) by boardwatcher</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/voicing-our-vision-public-input-and-other-myths-part-i/#comment-1346</link>
		<dc:creator>boardwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vandal said what the board is calling Listening Time will allow it to engage with people who want to talk about school issues.

“Most folks come looking for a conversation and this will give them a chance for that,” Vandal said.

Why not simply engage taxpayers at the board meeting as intended in the first place.  Take the structure of township meetings, planning comission , county commissioners , city council....It is very simple.  The boards discuss an issue......People are given the opportunity for input on that issue....Staff professionals ae consulted (i.e. superintendent and other administrators) the board makes motions and takes action.....and they move on to the next issue.  This is real public engagement.  This is what is needed.  Less than this is inadequate. 

Read the www.ISD47.org site carefully....our district has a meeting "in the public" not a "public meeting".  Either is apparently acceptable under the law, yet our district elects to use the less responsive "meeting in the public" rather than the truely open, transparent, and responsive "public meeting" format.   If the board is genuinely interested in increased public participation this is the direction that is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vandal said what the board is calling Listening Time will allow it to engage with people who want to talk about school issues.</p>
<p>“Most folks come looking for a conversation and this will give them a chance for that,” Vandal said.</p>
<p>Why not simply engage taxpayers at the board meeting as intended in the first place.  Take the structure of township meetings, planning comission , county commissioners , city council&#8230;.It is very simple.  The boards discuss an issue&#8230;&#8230;People are given the opportunity for input on that issue&#8230;.Staff professionals ae consulted (i.e. superintendent and other administrators) the board makes motions and takes action&#8230;..and they move on to the next issue.  This is real public engagement.  This is what is needed.  Less than this is inadequate. </p>
<p>Read the <a href="http://www.ISD47.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ISD47.org</a> site carefully&#8230;.our district has a meeting &#8220;in the public&#8221; not a &#8220;public meeting&#8221;.  Either is apparently acceptable under the law, yet our district elects to use the less responsive &#8220;meeting in the public&#8221; rather than the truely open, transparent, and responsive &#8220;public meeting&#8221; format.   If the board is genuinely interested in increased public participation this is the direction that is needed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Saw an Idea I Didn&#8217;t Like&#8230;&#8230; by Foregoer</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/never-saw-an-idea-i-didnt-like/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>Foregoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit.

cheers, Foregoer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Anyway &#8230; nice blog to visit.</p>
<p>cheers, Foregoer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on VOICING OUR VISION, PUBLIC INPUT AND OTHER MYTHS (Part I) by boardwatcher</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/voicing-our-vision-public-input-and-other-myths-part-i/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>boardwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joanie...It is our understanding that concerns were raised at the last board meeting......(June 8th?)

The problem is that the proposed change in procedures only restricts the  options that are already available to anyone wishing to communicate their thoughts to the board.  

As things stand we currently have (at least) the following options:
1)  Address the board publicly at a meeting in the presence of a quorum.
2)  Address less than a quorum of members by contacting the chairman and asking for a less public meeting.  
3)  Address individuals by e-mail or phone or written letter.

I'm sure there are other ways I'm not listing here.

It is our contention that the new proposal does not expand upon any of these options but rather eliminates option 1, the most formal and most important option if the public is to be afforded the opportunity to publicly express their opinions on board actions.

We suggest that the board move in the opposite direction by allowing public input on each agenda item as it is discussed by the board members.  This would be the format of a true public meeting, rather than the current status of board meetings being held as "meetings in the public" as opposed to "public meetings".  This is a choice that our school boards of past have selected.  It is a policy that has worn out it's welcome.

Most other public boards, such as planning, zoning and county commissioners, city council, township hall,  act as public meetings with a period for public input on each agenda item, followed by board actions.  There is actual dialogue between the public and the board members.  There is nothing to preclude the board meetings being held as actual public metings.  They should be....

Parent/taxpayer participation is effectively non-existent under the current structure because as we all know there is no opportunity to participate in actual 2-way communications on agenda items.  The proposed modification to the public input process would further reduce the already pathetic level of public participation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joanie&#8230;It is our understanding that concerns were raised at the last board meeting&#8230;&#8230;(June 8th?)</p>
<p>The problem is that the proposed change in procedures only restricts the  options that are already available to anyone wishing to communicate their thoughts to the board.  </p>
<p>As things stand we currently have (at least) the following options:<br />
1)  Address the board publicly at a meeting in the presence of a quorum.<br />
2)  Address less than a quorum of members by contacting the chairman and asking for a less public meeting.<br />
3)  Address individuals by e-mail or phone or written letter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are other ways I&#8217;m not listing here.</p>
<p>It is our contention that the new proposal does not expand upon any of these options but rather eliminates option 1, the most formal and most important option if the public is to be afforded the opportunity to publicly express their opinions on board actions.</p>
<p>We suggest that the board move in the opposite direction by allowing public input on each agenda item as it is discussed by the board members.  This would be the format of a true public meeting, rather than the current status of board meetings being held as &#8220;meetings in the public&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;public meetings&#8221;.  This is a choice that our school boards of past have selected.  It is a policy that has worn out it&#8217;s welcome.</p>
<p>Most other public boards, such as planning, zoning and county commissioners, city council, township hall,  act as public meetings with a period for public input on each agenda item, followed by board actions.  There is actual dialogue between the public and the board members.  There is nothing to preclude the board meetings being held as actual public metings.  They should be&#8230;.</p>
<p>Parent/taxpayer participation is effectively non-existent under the current structure because as we all know there is no opportunity to participate in actual 2-way communications on agenda items.  The proposed modification to the public input process would further reduce the already pathetic level of public participation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Saw an Idea I Didn&#8217;t Like&#8230;&#8230; by boardwatcher</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/never-saw-an-idea-i-didnt-like/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>boardwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious (Anonymous)....I found your comment that is now posted above.  It was burried among several hundred items identified as spam.  Automatic spam detection is not perfect....My apologies...I can't say what in your post triggered it to be marked as spam...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious (Anonymous)&#8230;.I found your comment that is now posted above.  It was burried among several hundred items identified as spam.  Automatic spam detection is not perfect&#8230;.My apologies&#8230;I can&#8217;t say what in your post triggered it to be marked as spam&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on VOICING OUR VISION, PUBLIC INPUT AND OTHER MYTHS (Part I) by Joanie Hauck</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/voicing-our-vision-public-input-and-other-myths-part-i/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanie Hauck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the May 21st School Board meeting and Mr. Vandal and Brenda Woggan were seemingly unsure of this new idea being brought to their attention.  This was the second meeting it was mentioned and the board decided to have someone from another school district that already uses this format come and speak.

It would be good to let the board know you are against this and why at the next meeting. You would need to speak up at the public input time but as you prefer this method it should not be a problem. 

I would have to say that Jan Solarz and the rest of the board seemed interested in so far as looking for a more welcoming way to have the community speak. 

I hope you and your family enjoy the summer.  I know that the weather is less than enjoyable as of late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the May 21st School Board meeting and Mr. Vandal and Brenda Woggan were seemingly unsure of this new idea being brought to their attention.  This was the second meeting it was mentioned and the board decided to have someone from another school district that already uses this format come and speak.</p>
<p>It would be good to let the board know you are against this and why at the next meeting. You would need to speak up at the public input time but as you prefer this method it should not be a problem. </p>
<p>I would have to say that Jan Solarz and the rest of the board seemed interested in so far as looking for a more welcoming way to have the community speak. </p>
<p>I hope you and your family enjoy the summer.  I know that the weather is less than enjoyable as of late.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Saw an Idea I Didn&#8217;t Like&#8230;&#8230; by curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was Anonymous but my posts are not going through.

bw if your car cost under $1,000.00 you qualify.

I know many BMW's that are 97 with 350,000 miles that would not qualify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was Anonymous but my posts are not going through.</p>
<p>bw if your car cost under $1,000.00 you qualify.</p>
<p>I know many BMW&#8217;s that are 97 with 350,000 miles that would not qualify.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Saw an Idea I Didn&#8217;t Like&#8230;&#8230; by boardwatcher</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/never-saw-an-idea-i-didnt-like/#comment-1335</link>
		<dc:creator>boardwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous...How about a 97 and a 98 with a total of 350.000 miles.....would those qualify as junkers?

Regarding cut and paste, this is just the default for this blogging template.....Might be able to change it but haven't tried very hard yet.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous&#8230;How about a 97 and a 98 with a total of 350.000 miles&#8230;..would those qualify as junkers?</p>
<p>Regarding cut and paste, this is just the default for this blogging template&#8230;..Might be able to change it but haven&#8217;t tried very hard yet&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Never Saw an Idea I Didn&#8217;t Like&#8230;&#8230; by curious</title>
		<link>http://schoolboardwatch.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/never-saw-an-idea-i-didnt-like/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BW, So why is it we can't copy paste?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BW, So why is it we can&#8217;t copy paste?</p>
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